AINSLEY: BACK WITH FOX NEWS AINSLEY: BACK WITH FOX NEWS ALERT, MAJOR BREAKTHROUGH IN SEARCH FOR COVID-19 VACCINE. PETE: JOHNSON & JOHNSON REVEALING OVERNIGHT IT PROTECTS MONKEYS AFTER ONE DOZE, HUMAN TRIALS OF THAT VACCINE BEGIN TODAY AS COVID-19-RELATED DEATHS NOW TOP 150,000 IN THE U.S. BRIAN: WOW, NOW MORE THAN 4.4 MILLION CASES, 7 STATES REPORTING RECORD HIGH NUMBER OF DEATHS IN A SINGLE DAY, LET’S BRING IN DR. DEBORAH BIRX, WHITE HOUSE CORONAVIRUS RESPONSE COORDINATOR. DR. BIRX, ALWAYS GREAT TO SEE YOU. THE WORD IS THAT YOU SAY I’M WORRIED ABOUT THE SOUTH BUT I’M REALLY WORRIED ABOUT THE MIDWEST, WHERE? DOCTOR: SO JUST TO REMIND EVERYONE ACROSS THE SOUTH STILL A VERY SERIOUS PANDEMIC ALTHOUGH THEY ARE STARTING TO SEE THE GLIMMERS OF HOPE OF IMPROVEMENT AND WE REALLY WANT TO THANK GOVERNORS AND MAYOR WHO IS HAVE WORKED HARD WITH THEIR POPULATIONS TO ENSURE EVERYONE WAS WEARING MASKS, DECREASING SOCIAL GATHERINGS, DECREASING IN PLACES LIKE BARS AN DECREASING PARTIES AT HOME WHERE YOU CAN’T SOCIAL DISTANT. NOW WE SEE THE VIRUS PROBABLY BECAUSE OF VACATIONS AND OTHER REASONS OF TRAVEL MOVING UP INTO KENTUCKY, TENNESSEE, SOUTHERN OHIO, MISSOURI, IOWA, KANSAS, NEBRASKA AND, OF COURSE, WE CONTINUE TO HAVE PROBLEMS ACROSS THE WEST COAST, WASHINGTON, OREGON, CALIFORNIA, IDAHO AND UTAH AND NOW INCREASES IN COLORADO. SO THESE ARE THE STATES THAT WE CALL YELLOW STATES. WE BELIEVE THE GOVERNORS AND MAYORS OF EVERY LOCALITY RIGHT NOW WOULD MANDATE MASKS FOR THEIR COMMUNITIES AND EVERY AMERICAN WOULD WEAR A MASK AND SOCIALLY DISTANCE AND NOT CONGREGATE IN LARGE SETTINGS WHERE YOU CAN’T SOCIALLY DISTANCE OR WEAR A MASK. WE CAN REALLY GET CONTROL OF THE VIRUS AND DRIVE DOWN CASES AS ARIZONA HAS DONE. AINSLEY: DR. BIRX, THIS IS EXCITING NEWS WITH JOHNSON & JOHNSON GIVING DRUG TO VACCINE ON MONKEYS AND WORKS ON FIRST TRY, WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THIS AND WHAT MORE CAN YOU TELL US? DOCTOR: THE EXCITING THING ABOUT JOHNSON & JOHNSON VACCINE, TRIALS FROM MODERNA AND PFIZER, THE JOHNSON & JOHNSON, ALL TO HAVE VACCINES WERE BUILT ON WHAT WE CALL KNOWN TECHNOLOGY OR KNOWN VECTORS SO WE KNEW THE SAFETY TO BEGIN WITH. THE JOHNSON & JOHNSON VACCINE IS EXCITING BECAUSE IT’S A SINGLE DOSE. TO SHOW PROTECTION IN MONKEYS DOES SHORTEN THE TIME PERIOD FOR DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE YOU READ OUT BECOMES 30 DAYS QUICKER. PETE: DOCTOR, YOUR COLLEAGUE DR. FAUCI SUGGESTED RECENTLY THAT GOOGLES WOULD WORK EVEN BETTER OR IN ADDITION TO, YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT MASKS, PEOPLE HAVE COME AROUND TO THE REALITY OF THAT, ARE WE GOING TO LOOK AT MORE DEMANDS BASED ON WHAT DR. FAUCI HAS SAID? DOCTOR: I HAVE SEEN GREAT FACE SHIELDS AND I’VE SEEN THEM AROUND THE COUNTRY. I’VE BEEN OUT TO 14 STATES. THE ADMINISTRATION SENT ME OUT TO HOT SPOTS AN YELLOW STATES TO DELIVER SPECIFIC MESSAGES ABOUT HOW TO IMPROVE AND PREVENTION SPREAD IN THEIR COMMUNITIES AND I’VE GOTTEN TO SEE A LOT OF EXCITING FACE MASKS OUT THERE AND FACE MASKS THAT COVER FROM THE BOTTOM UP AND I THINK THAT’S REALLY -- I THINK PEOPLE, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE INNOVATIVE. THOSE ARE ACTUALLY PRETTY EASY AND STRAIGHTFORWARD TO MAKE. MANY UNIVERSITIES AND THOSE WHO HAVE PRINTERS ARE MAKING FACE SHIELDS NOW. THE 3D PRINTERS CAN INCREASE PRODUCTION AND I THINK OTHERS ARE MAKING THEM AND THEY ARE GOING TO BE DECORATED. PETE: DOCTOR, NO ONE IS INTERESTED IN DECORATIONS, I WANT TO KNOW FACE SHIELD OR GOGGLES IS SOMETHING THAT WE WILL HEAR NEXT? IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WILL BECOME THE NEW GUIDELINES? DOCTOR: THE MASK IS TO PROTECT OTHERS, IT’S TO BLOCK THOSE DROPLETS AND BLOCK THAT CONTAMINATION THAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU SPEAK OR SING OR TALK OR EVEN BREATHE. THE THING ABOUT THE FACE SHIELDS WE THINK THAT THAT COULD PROTECT THE INDIVIDUALS AND THAT IT WOULD DECREASE THE ABILITY FOR THEM TO TOUCH THEIR EYES AND SPREAD VIRUS AS WELL AS THE DROPLETS COMING TOWARDS THEM. SO THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT TECHNOLOGIES FOR TWO DIFFERENT REASONS. BRIAN: UNBELIEVABLE BECAUSE WE HEARD THE MASKS NOT ONLY PROTECT PEOPLE FROM YOU BUT YOUR PROTECTION SO DON’T WEAR A MASK, WEAR A MASK AND NOW IT CAN HELP YOU IF IT’S SPREAD AND NOW IT CAN HELP YOU BLOCK AND NOW YOU’RE SAYING WEAR GOGGLES. IT’S UNBELIEVABLE. ALL RIGHT. LET’S GET KIDS BACK TO SCHOOL. DO YOU BELIEVE FROM WHAT YOU KNOW EVEN IN THE HOTTEST SPOT THERE’S A WAY TO GET KIDS BACK TO SCHOOL SAFELY BEING THAT THEIR TRANSMISSION IS SO LOW, THE CHANCES OF THEM GETTING IT IS SO SMALL? DOCTOR: FIRST, LET’S GO BACK TO THE TWO STATISTICS, ONE, WE KNOW FROM EXAMPLES AROUND THE COUNTRY THAT CHILDREN DO GET INFECTED. WHAT WE DO KNOW THEY DO BETTER BY IN LARGE. THE QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER THEY ARE LESS TRANSMIT THE VIRUS LESS STILL OPEN DEBATE. WE HAVE ONE STUDY NOT DONE IN THE UNITED STATES AND I THINK THAT STILL IS AN OPEN QUESTION. WHEN YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING CHILDREN BACK IN SCHOOL, THE TEACHERS, THE GRANDPARENTS THAT ARE HOME IN MULTIGENERATIONAL -- BRIAN: WE HEARD FROM EXPERTS SAYING IT’S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE FOR KIDS TO SPREAD THIS TO OTHER KIDS AND ADULTS, YOU’RE SAYING IT’S NOT TRUE AT ALL. DOCTOR: WE HAVE ONE STUDY IN SOUTH KOREA THAT SHOWED PRECISE FACT. WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IN THE UNITED STATES DO I HAVE AN EXAMPLE POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE THAT CONFIRMS THAT STUDY AND I THINK YOU KNOW WITH SCIENTISTS WE LIKE TO HAVE ALWAYS MORE THAN ONE STUDY TO CONFIRM IT. WHAT WE DO KNOW IS CHILDREN PARTICULARLY CHILDREN UNDER 18 GET MUCH LESS SICK AS WELL AS PEOPLE UNDER 35. THAT MEANS ALSO THAT WE CALL ASYMPTOMATIC AND MORE LIKELY TO SPREAD THE VIRUS WITHOUT THEM KNOWING THAT THEY HAVE SYMPTOMS. WHAT WE CAN DO AS AMERICANS IF WE WANT OUR CHILDREN BACK IN SCHOOLS IS WE CAN HELP THIS COUNTRY BY EVERYBODY DOING WHAT THE PRESIDENT HAS ASKED, WEAR A MASK, SOCIALLY DISTANCE, AVOID GATHERINGS WHERE YOU CANNOT SOCIALLY DISTANT AND WEAR MASKS IN BARS AND HOUSE PARTIES AND THIS WILL BRING THE CASE NUMBERS VERY RAPIDLY IF WE ALTOGETHER AS AMERICANS DID THOSE FEW THINGS. PETE: WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE TEN STUDIES BUT SCHOOL IS COMING. SO IS THE GUIDANCE GOING TO BE FOLLOW PROTOCOLS AND MEASURES BUT GET KIDS BACK IN SCHOOL? DOCTOR: CDC HAS PUT OUT GUIDELINES SO CHILDREN CAN GO BACK TO SCHOOL. I THINK EVERY SCHOOL DISTRICTS AROUND THE COUNTRY AND CERTAINLY WE HAVE MULTIPLE SCHOOL DISTRICTS WHERE THE TEST POSITIVITY IS UNDER 2% AND WE HAVE A WHOLE ANOTHER SET OF SCHOOL DISTRICTS AN COUNTIES WHERE IT’S LESS THAN 5% AND CASE COUNTS ARE EXTRAORDINARILY LOW. WHAT WE WANT IS THE WHOLE COUNTRY TO BE ABLE TO GO BACK TO SCHOOL AND ALL OF THOSE CASE COUNTS DOWN TO WHAT WE CALL THE GREEN STATES AND WE KNOW THAT IS POSSIBLE BECAUSE STATES HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT AND MAINTAIN THAT AND THAT’S THE EVIDENCE-BASE THAT WE SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT. WE HAVE EVIDENCE NOW OF WHAT WORKS AND HOW TO MAINTAIN VERY LOW CASE COUNTS. THE REST OF AMERICA NEEDS TO FOLLOW THOSE GUIDELINES AND BRING THE REST OF US INTO THAT GREEN CATEGORY. AINSLEY: DR. BIRX, LET’S TALK ABOUT HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE BECAUSE THE PRESIDENT WAS SAYING THAT IT HAS WORKED FOR SOME PEOPLE. THERE WAS THE LOCAL CONGRESSWOMAN THAT SAID IT SAVED HER LIFE AND THEN YOU RECENTLY HAD VIDEOS OF DOCTORS, I BELIEVE IN TEXAS, SOCIAL MEDIA SITES TOOK DOWN SITES BECAUSE SHE WAS SAYING THIS COULD BE A CURE AND HAS HELPED EVERY SINGLE PATIENT AND NO ONE HAS DIED BECAUSE I PUT THEM ON HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE AND Z PACK, WHY ARE THEY BANNING IT IF IT WORKS IN CERTAIN CASES? DOCTOR: BECAUSE SCIENCE AND MEDICINES HAVE ALWAYS BEEN FULL OF ACCOUNTS LIKE THIS AND THAT’S WHY YOU DO RANDOMIZED CLINICAL TRIALS TO ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO COMPARE PATIENT TO PATIENT. EVERYTHING THAT YOU JUST REPORTED ON HAD NO CONTROLS IN THOSE INDIVIDUAL PRACTICES. WE KNOW IN THE RANDOMIZED CONTROL OF THE TRIALS TO DATE AND THERE’S BEEN SEVERAL OF THEM THERE’S NO EVIDENCE THAT IT IMPROVES THE PATIENTS’ OUTCOMES, MODERATE DISEASE OR SERIOUSLY ILL IN THE HOSPITAL. MEDICINE ALWAYS HAS THESE REPORTS AND THAT’S WHY WE DO THESE RANDOMIZED CONTROL TRIALS. THERE ALSO MAY BE A SPECIFIC SUBGROUP THAT DOES BENEFIT BUT WE CAN’T SEE THOSE IN THE RANDOMIZED CONTROL TRIALS. AINSLEY: ISN’T THAT UP TO YOUR DOCTOR? WHAT IF YOUR DOCTOR SAYS HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE OR MY DOCTOR REMDESIVIR? DOCTOR: LET’S SEPARATE ISSUES. WE DID HAVE RANDOMIZE CONTROL ON REMDESIVIR. THE AMERICAN CAN HAVE ADVANTAGE OF RECEIVING REMDESIVIR AND CAN BENEFIT THE MOST. THAT IS MOVING FORWARD. MEDICAL BOARDS DECIDE FOR THEIR STATE BASED ON CLINICAL PRACTICES AND SO I’M ASSUMING THAT OHIO HAD A VERY SPECIFIC REASON IN ORDER TO TAKE THIS APPROACH. EVERY STATE HAS TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THIS INDEPENDENTLY BECAUSE THAT’S HOW WE ARE WITH STATE DRIVEN WITH THOSE KIND OF DECISION-MAKING. PETE: ALL RIGHT, DR. DEBORAH BIRX, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR